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  • Actors Gene Hackman, Val Kilmer, Michael Madsen, George Wendt, and Michelle Trachtenberg died in 2025.
  • Musicians Brian Wilson, Roberta Flack, Marianne Faithfull, Peter Yarrow, and Sly Stone also passed away.
  • So did director David Lynch, boxing legend George Foreman, and MLB Hall of Famer Bob Uecker.

Below, we look back at those we lost in 2025.

Jeff Baena, 47
Jeff Baena in a green sweater
Jeff Baena.

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Baena was known for writing and directing comedic independent movies like "Life After Beth," "The Little Hours," and "Horse Girl."

Many of them starred his wife, Aubrey Plaza.

He also wrote the 2004 movie "I Heart Huckabees" with director David O. Russell.

Baena died by suicide on January 3.

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Joe Don Baker, 89
Joe Don Baker with a cigarette in his mouth
Joe Don Baker.

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Baker was known for his tough guy roles, playing heroes and villains with equal intensity for close to four decades.

The Texas native found stardom in 1973 playing the real-life moonshine-busting Tennessee Sheriff Buford Pusser in the surprise hit "Walking Tall."

A string of memorable roles utilizing his intimidating presence followed. He played a crooked cop opposite Chevy Chase in the 1985 hit comedy "Fletch," teamed up with Nick Nolte to try to stop a crazed Robert De Niro in Martin Scorsese's 1991 remake of "Cape Fear," and, between those movies, played a fictional version of Babe Ruth opposite Robert Redford in the 1984 sports classic "The Natural."

Baker also has the distinction of playing both a villain (1987's "The Living Daylights") and a good guy (1995's "GoldenEye," 1997's "Tomorrow Never Dies") in the James Bond franchise.

Baker died on May 7. No cause was given.

Anne Burrell, 55
Anne Burrell holding a plate of food on a stage
Anne Burrell.

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Burrell was a Food Network star known for her spiky platinum hair and her enthusiasm for the culinary arts. After getting her start in Italian restaurants in New York City, she rose to fame after appearing as a sous chef to Mario Batali on "Iron Chef America."

She soon became a staple on the Food Network, appearing on "Chef Wanted," "Chopped," and "Food Network Star," and hosting the Emmy-nominated "Secrets of a Restaurant Chef" and "Worst Cooks in America."

Burrell died on June 17; no cause was given.

Dick Button, 95
Dick Button staking on ice
Dick Button.

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Button was one of the greats in men's figure skating.

His dominance in the sport began in the late 1940s, when he began winning on the amateur circuit by landing moves no one had ever seen done before in competition, including the double axel and the triple jump.

He would go on to win two Olympic gold medals and five consecutive world championships.

Once he retired, he went on to become an Emmy-winning analyst and even was one of the minds behind the popular 1970s competition show "Battle of the Network Stars," in which celebrities challenged one another in various sports competitions.

Button died on January 30. No cause was given.

Richard Chamberlain, 90
Richard Chamberlain leaning against a fence
Richard Chamberlain.

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A beloved actor on the stage and screen for decades, Chamberlain was the face of the acclaimed 1980s miniseries "The Thorn Birds" and "Shogun," both of which garnered him Emmy nominations.

He also found acclaim onstage, starring in revivals of "My Fair Lady" and "The Sound of Music."

In the 2000s, Chamberlain had memorable guest-starring roles on shows like "Will and Grace" and "Desperate Housewives."

Chamberlain died on March 29 of complications following a stroke.

Leslie Charleson, 79
Leslie Charleson riding a horse
Leslie Charleson.

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For 50 years, fans of "General Hospital" knew Charleson as Dr. Monica Quartermaine, a role she played since 1977.

Charleson was beloved by fans and used her celebrity to support charities for breast cancer, cystic fibrosis, and AIDS awareness.

Charleson's other credits include "Adam 12," "Barnaby Jones," "Marcus Welby, M.D.," "Ironside," "Kung Fu," and "The Rockford Files."

She also starred in "Happy Days" and gave Ron Howard his first on-screen kiss.

Charleson died on January 12 following a long illness.

Marianne Faithfull, 78
Marianne Faithfull in a blue top
Marianne Faithfull.

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Faithfull was a fixture in the London music scene during the 1960s.

She was discovered by The Rolling Stones manager Andrew Loog Oldham, which led to her finding instant stardom not just for her chart-topping music, like "As Tears Go By," which became a top 5 single in the UK, but also for her hard-partying ways alongside her then-flame Mick Jagger.

Throughout the 1960s, she was the inspiration for Stones hits "You Can't Always Get What You Want" and "Wild Horses" while being a co-writer on "Sister Morphine." But she was also in a deep addiction to drugs. She was famously found wearing nothing but a fur rug during a 1967 drug bust at Keith Richards' Sussex home.

Faithfull made a comeback with the 1979 album "Broken English," which earned her a Grammy nomination.

Other hit songs include "This Little Bird," "Summer Nights," and "Come and Stay With Me."

She also starred in movies like 1967's "I'll Never Forget What's'isname" and 1968's "The Girl on the Motorcycle."

Faithfull died on January 30. No cause was given.

Roberta Flack, 88
Roberta Flack smiling wearing a dress
Roberta Flack.

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Flack's smooth R&B vocals made her a star in the 1970s with Grammy-winning hits like "The First Time I Ever Saw Your Face," "Killing Me Softly with His Song," and "Feel Like Makin' Love."

Over her career, Flack scored six top-10 pop hits and 10 top-10 R&B singles. She was also the first artist to win the record of the year Grammy in two consecutive years, for 1973's "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face" and 1974's "Killing Me Softly with His Song."

Flack was introduced to a new generation in the 1990s when The Fugees did a Grammy-winning cover of "Killing Me Softly" in 1996.

Flack died on February 24. No cause was given.

George Foreman, 76
George Foreman with his fists up
George Foreman.

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Foreman was a two-time heavyweight boxing champion, winning his titles in 1973 at the age of 24 and again in 1994 at the age of 45.

Foreman fought formidable legends throughout his long-lasting boxing career, including Muhammad Ali in 1974 — dubbed The Rumble in the Jungle, one of the most-watched televised sporting events of the time — and Evander Holyfield in 1991.

Toward the end of his career, Foreman became the face of Salton Inc.'s George Foreman Grill, making millions through his household name.

His family announced on social media that he died on March 21. No cause was given. Foreman was 76.

Irv Gotti, 54
Irv Gotti pointing with both hands
Irv Gotti.

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In an era of hip-hop where the producers were as prominent as the artists, Irv Gotti was one of the shining stars of the late 1990s and 2000s.

Gotti, who was born Irving Domingo Lorenzo Jr. and later went by DJ Irv, came on the scene as A&R for Def Jam. He brought in artists that would define the next generation of hip-hop to the label like Jay-Z, DMX, and Ja Rule.

His coming out party was producing one of Jay-Z's first hits, "Can I Live," from his 1996 debut album "Reasonable Doubt."

Soon after, his Irv Gotti persona was created when he founded the rap label Murder Inc. Records, bringing along artists like DMX and Ja Rule and signing others like Ashanti.

There he became the face of smash hits like Jay-Z's "Can I Get A…," DMX's "What's My Name," Ja Rule's "Holla Holla," Fat Joe's "What's Luv?," Jennifer Lopez's "I'm Real," and Ashanti's "Foolish."

In recent years, Gotti had suffered strokes and battled diabetes-related issues. He died on February 5. No cause was given.

Gene Hackman, 95
Gene Hackman leaning up against a fence
Gene Hackman.

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Hackman was a superstar in the skin of a character actor.

From his breakout in 1967's "Bonnie and Clyde" to his final movie, 2004's "Welcome to Mooseport," this skilled actor did it all with low-key confidence.

Even when he played the diabolical villain Lex Luthor in the Christopher Reeve "Superman" movies, Hackman's deft performance was never about upstaging other actors.

But audiences couldn't help but gravitate to him. Taking on roles in projects that would become classics like the gritty cop "Popeye" Doyle in "The French Connection," which earned him an Oscar; a surveillance expert in "The Conversation;" a tough but fair basketball coach in "Hoosiers;" and showing his comedy chops in "Get Shorty" and "The Birdcage," Hackman became beloved.

He abruptly retired in 2004 and spent the rest of his life writing novels and enjoying life with his wife Betsy Arakawa.

Hackman and Arakawa were found dead in their Santa Fe, New Mexico, home on February 26. An investigation is ongoing.

Nicky Katt, 54
Nicky Katt in a white tshirt
Nicky Katt.

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Katt started his career as a child actor landing roles in "Fantasy Island" and "CHiPs" in the 1980s, but it was the roles he played as an adult that would cement his legacy.

From "Dazed and Confused" to "Boiler Room," Katt often played the heel, and dispensing wiseass remarks with a dark stare became his signature.

Katt became a favorite of directors like Steven Soderbergh, who cast him in "The Limey" and "Full Frontal," and Christopher Nolan, who gave him parts in "Insomnia" and "The Dark Knight."

The actor also played the edgy teacher Harry Senate in the series "Boston Public."

Katt died on April 8. His family confirmed to Deadline that he died by suicide.

Val Kilmer, 65
Val Kilmer in a white shirt
Val Kilmer.

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Val Kilmer was a quintessential movie star who delivered some of the most memorable performances in movie history.

As the hotshot flyer "Iceman" in 1986's Top Gun, he became a scene stealer who could hold his own against Tom Cruise.

From there, Kilmer shot to superstardom in movies like 1988's "Willow," Oliver Stone's 1991 biopic "The Doors," in which he played the band's legendary frontman Jim Morrison; 1993's "Tombstone," in which he played Doc Holliday; and Michael Mann's 1995 classic "Heat," in which he played a thief opposite Robert De Niro.

That same year, he would also become a major box office draw playing Batman in the 1995 movie "Batman Forever."

In 2014, Kilmer was diagnosed with throat cancer and recovered, but his voice was permanently damaged from a tracheotomy.

His final movie appearance was reprising his Iceman role in 2022's "Top Gun: Maverick."

Kilmer died on April 1 of pneumonia.

Ananda Lewis, 52
Ananda Lewis in a red dress
Ananda Lewis.

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As an MTV veejay in the late 1990s and early 2000s, Ananda Lewis was a standout. After getting her start hosting BET's "Teen Summit," she moved over to MTV, hosting its hit shows "MTV Live," "Total Request Live," and "Hot Zone." She also had her own show, "The Ananda Lewis Show," which ran from 2001 to 2002.

In 2020, Lewis announced that she had been battling breast cancer for two years. Last October, she revealed her cancer had progressed to stage four. Lewis died on June 11.

David Lynch, 78
David Lynch pointing finger at lens
David Lynch.

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Lynch was the visionary director of surrealist films like "The Elephant Man," "Blue Velvet," "Mulholland Drive," and the hit TV series "Twin Peaks."

His groundbreaking works blended elements of everything from horror to film noir to surrealism, creating a uniquely skewed vision of America.

After adapting Frank Herbert's "Dune" in 1984, resulting in a box office flop, Lynch produced a string of surrealist works that would define his career: 1986's "Blue Velvet," 1990's "Wild at Heart," 1992's "Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me" (the prequel to his hit TV show "Twin Peaks," which ran from 1990 to 1991), and 1997's "Lost Highway."

Each title showcased Lynch's seemingly limitless creativity as he pushed the boundaries of narrative structure while dazzling the viewer with exquisite production design and cinematography.

The Lynch family announced his passing on January 16. In August 2024, the filmmaker announced that he had emphysema following decades of smoking, but said he hadn't smoked in over two years.

Michael Madsen, 67
Michael Madsen in a grey jacket and black shirt
Michael Madsen.

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Playing memorable roles in Quentin Tarantino movies like "Reservoir Dogs," the "Kill Bill" movies, "The Hateful Eight," and "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood," Madsen was known for his ultra-cool tough guy characters.

Outside of the Tarantino universe, he had memorable roles as a slick cop chasing an alien in 1995's "Species" and a mobster in 1997's "Donnie Brasco."

Madsen had close to 350 movie credits to his name, dating back to the 1980s with small roles in "The Natural," where he played an egotistical baseball player opposite Robert Redford, and a blink-and-you'd-miss-it part in the hit Matthew Broderick thriller "WarGames."

But the role he'll forever be known best for was playing the crook Mr. Blonde in Tarantino's 1992 masterpiece, "Reservoir Dogs." Sporting black shades, a black suit with a white shirt, and a skinny black tie, Madsen had the memorable line, "Are you gonna bark all day, little doggie, or are you gonna bite?" He also famously strutted to the song "Stuck in the Middle With You" while torturing a cop.

Madsen died on July 3 at his Malibu home. No cause was given.

Wink Martindale, 91
Wink Martindale laughing
Wink Martindale.

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After working as everything from a disc jockey to the host of a kids' sci-fi series to a chart-topping artist (with the 1959 spoken-word tune "Deck of Cards"), Wink Martindale found his true calling as a game show host in the 1960s.

His first was NBC's "What's This Song?" in 1964. Then in 1972 came his first hit, "Gambit." That was followed by the even more popular "Tic-Tac-Dough," which ran until the late 1980s.

Martindale went on to host other game shows through the decades like "High Rollers," "The Last Word," "The Great Getaway Game," "Trivial Pursuit," "Debt," and "Instant Recall."

Martindale died on April 15. No cause was given.

Sam Moore, 89
Sam Moore holding a microphone
Sam Moore.

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Moore's R&B sound influenced everyone from Michael Jackson to Bruce Springsteen.

Alongside Dave Prater, Moore found fame in the 1960s with Sam & Dave, a duo who had hits like "Hold On, I'm Comin'" and "Soul Man."

"Soul Man" would gain renewed popularity in the late 1970s when Dan Aykroyd and John Belushi began performing the song as their alter egos, R&B singers The Blues Brothers, on "Saturday Night Live." The song would continue to find new fans in 1980 when "The Blues Brothers" movie was released.

Moore went solo in 1970 and was inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in 1992.

Moore died on January 10 from complications while recovering from surgery.

Geneviève Page, 97
Geneviève Page in a hat and mink sitting inside a car
Geneviève Page.

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Thanks to her stunning beauty, Page became a fixture in both French cinema and Hollywood through the 1960s.

She's best known for playing Madame Anais, the owner of a high-class brothel in Luis Buñuel's 1967 masterpiece "Belle de Jour."

In the movie, Anais oversees the actions of Catherine Deneuve's character Severine, a bored housewife who turns to prostitution to spice up her life. But she only works in the afternoon while her husband is away at work, leading to Anais calling her "Belle de Jour" ("Beauty of the Day").

Page also starred in "El Cid," the 1961 medieval epic also starring Charlton Heston and Sophia Loren, and Billy Wilder's 1970 film "The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes."

Page died on February 14. No cause was given.

Angie Stone, 63
Singer Angie Stone attends the Urban One Honors: Best In Black in January 2024.
Angie Stone.

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Stone was a member of the female hip-hop trio The Sequence, who is known for songs like "Funk You Up" and "Monster Jam."

She later launched a solo career in the late 1990s with her debut album, "Black Diamond." Her 2001 song, "Wish I Didn't Miss You," became one of her most popular songs.

Stone's publicist told TMZ that Stone died in a car crash on March 1 after performing in Montgomery, Alabama. The Grammy-nominated artist was traveling in a van with eight other people, including backup singers and crew, when it crashed on Interstate 65.

Sly Stone, 82
Sly Stone performs at Woodstock in 1969.
Sly Stone.

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Stone, born Sylvester Stewart in California, was known as the founder and frontman of Sly and the Family Stone, a psychedelic-soul band active through the '60s, '70s, and early '80s. He was behind classic songs like "Dance to the Music" and "Everyday People."

In a statement distributed to the press, Stone's three children celebrated their father's "extraordinary musical legacy" and "enduring creative spirit."

"Sly was a monumental figure, a groundbreaking innovator, and a true pioneer who redefined the landscape of pop, funk, and rock music," the family wrote. "His iconic songs have left an indelible mark on the world, and his influence remains undeniable."

Stone's death was announced on June 9 after a prolonged battle with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD).

Loretta Swit, 87
Loretta Swit holding her hand to her cheek
Loretta Swit.

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Swit portrayed one of the most memorable characters in TV history, playing the head nurse Major Margaret "Hot Lips" Houlihan on the legendary series "M*A*S*H."

Swit took over the role from Sally Kellerman, who originated the part in the 1970 Robert Altman movie the series is based on.

Her performance earned her 10 Emmy nominations and two wins. Swit and costar Alan Alda were the only two actors on the show who appeared in the pilot episode and the famed two-and-a-half-hour finale, which was seen by more than 100 million viewers.

Swit died on May 30 of natural causes.

Michelle Trachtenberg, 39
Michelle Trachtenberg smiling
Michelle Trachtenberg.

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Trachtenberg dedicated her life to acting and found fame in the process.

She landed her first major role in the mid-1990s as Nona F. Mecklenberg on the Nickelodeon series "The Adventures of Pete & Pete." In 1996, she played the lead in the Nickelodeon-produced movie "Harriet the Spy."

By the early 2000s, she had landed more mature roles in movies like the comedy "Euro Trip" and the indie drama "Mysterious Skin," both of which were released in 2004. At the same time, she was gaining fandom on the small screen playing Dawn Summers on "Buffy and the Vampire Slayer," and later appearing as Georgina Sparks on the hit CW series "Gossip Girl," which ran from 2007 to 2012.

Trachtenberg was found dead in a New York City apartment on February 26. A cause of death hasn't yet been determined.

DJ Unk (Anthony Platt), 42
Man with Atlanta Hawks hat on
DJ Unk.

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This Atlanta rapper brought snap music to the masses thanks to his hit 2006 songs "Walk it Out" and "2 Step."

Anthony Platt, better known by his stage name DJ Unk, was a fixture in the Atlanta rap scene in the late 1990s. He DJed at everything from pep rallies to proms.

He released his first album, "Beat'n Down Yo Block!" in 2006 and found huge acclaim due to his two big hit songs, "Walk it Out" and "2 Step."

"Walk it Out" got as high as No. 10 on the Billboard charts and went platinum.

His second album, "2econd Season," was released in 2008 but didn't find the same acclaim as his debut.

In 2009, due to non-stop touring and hard partying, DJ Unk suffered a heart attack.

DJ Unk died on January 24. His wife, Sherkita Long-Platt, said in a Facebook post that he died in his sleep after suffering a cardiac arrest.

Bob Uecker, 90
Bob Uecker smiling holding a bat
Bob Uecker.

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Uecker had a respectable career as a Major League Baseball backup catcher on four clubs through the 1960s, playing with his hometown Milwaukee Brewers and winning a World Series with the St. Louis Cardinals. But it was his work off the field that made him one of the most memorable figures in MLB history.

After retiring in 1967, Uecker started his second career as a broadcaster, calling games for the Brewers (which he did until his death) and being the color man for network games.

His self-deprecating style made him a likable figure, leading to him becoming a fixture on "The Tonight Show" with Johnny Carson, where he earned the nickname "Mr. Baseball." Suddenly, Uecker landed everything from beer commercials to a hosting gig on "Saturday Night Live."

But his most memorable gigs outside of baseball were playing sportswriter George Owens on the hit TV show "Mr. Belvedere" from 1985 to 1990 and starring as sarcastic broadcaster Harry Doyle in the beloved 1989 movie "Major League" and its sequels.

Uecker was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 2003.

He died on January 16 after battling small-cell lung cancer since 2023.

George Wendt, 76
George Wendt in a grey suit and red tie
George Wendt.

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Through the 1980s, he sat on the corner at the bar where everybody knows your name. In the process, he became a TV icon.

As Norm Peterson, who always threw out a funny one-liner when he entered the bar on the hit TV series "Cheers," Wendt created one of the most memorable characters in TV history and garnered six consecutive Emmy nominations.

The Chicago native, who started his career in the 1970s at the famed Second City improv troupe, also landed roles in hit movies like "Fletch" (1985), "Gung Ho" (1986), and "The Little Rascals" (1994), and played the grumpy dad opposite Macaulay Culkin in Michael Jackson's 1991 music video for "Black or White."

Through the decades, Wendt was also a regular on "Saturday Night Live," playing a superfan of the Chicago Bears who called the team "Da Bears." (Wendt is the uncle of "SNL" alum Jason Sudeikis.)

Wendt died on May 20. No cause was given.

Brian Wilson, 82
Brian Wilson recording and speaking into a microphone
Brian Wilson recording "Pet Sounds" in 1966.

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As a founding member of the Beach Boys, Brian Wilson is responsible for mega hits that blended pop music with more modern, avant-garde sounds.

From 1962 to 1966, the Beach Boys had 10 top-10 hits and seven top-40 chart entries, most of which were written or co-written and produced by Wilson.

Along with classics like "Good Vibrations" and "Help Me, Rhonda," Wilson is also responsible for pushing the band's sound into new dimensions, particularly with the 1966 album "Pet Sounds." Its blend of pop, jazz, and avant-garde influences brought widespread critical acclaim and inspired The Beatles to make "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band."

Wilson struggled most of his life with mental illness, which was explored in the 2014 movie, "Love & Mercy" starring John Cusack and Paul Dano playing Wilson at different stages in his life.

Wilson's death was announced by his family in June. No cause was given. In February 2024, it was revealed Wilson was battling dementia.

Peter Yarrow, 86
Peter Yarrow holding a guitar
Peter Yarrow.

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Yarrow was a singer-songwriter who was a member of the iconic folk music group Peter, Paul and Mary.

Along with Paul Stookey and Mary Travers, the trio had six Billboard Top 10 singles, two No. 1 albums, and won five Grammys. Their major hit was "Puff the Magic Dragon," which Yarrow cowrote.

Yarrow died on January 7 after a battle with bladder cancer.

Harris Yulin, 87
Harris Yulin in a green button down shirt
Harris Yulin.

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Although his name might not ring a bell, you have definitely seen Harris Yulin's work. Over his five-decade career, Yulin had many memorable roles in movies and TV, most notably as villains.

He played an angry judge in 1989's "Ghostbusters II" and a corrupt national security advisor opposite Harrison Ford in 1994's "Clear and Present Danger," but his all-time best villain role was playing the crooked cop Mel, who meets his fate thanks to Al Pacino's Tony Montana in the beloved 1983 gangster movie "Scarface."

Yulin died on June 10. No cause was given.

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'M3GAN 2.0' director breaks down the movie's most memorable scene and why he chose that song

29 June 2025 at 09:27
Allison Williams sitting next to M3GAN
Allison Williams in "M3GAN 2.0."

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  • WARNING: Spoiler below if you haven't seen "M3GAN 2.0."
  • Director Gerard Johnstone breaks down the movie's most memorable scene.
  • The scene showcases advanced animatronics.

Who knew a Kate Bush song would generate the highlight moment in "M3GAN 2.0"?

Leading up to its ultra-violent conclusion, Gemma (Allison Williams) opens up to M3GAN about the challenges of trying to be a motherly figure to her niece Cady (Violet McGraw). It's an unexpected somber moment in a horror movie centered on a homicidal robotic doll. Then, out of nowhere, M3GAN begins to sing to Gemma Kate Bush's late 1980s hit single "This Woman's Work."

As M3GAN belts out the song, Gemma commands her creation to stop singing. But M3GAN keeps on going, pressing two of her robotic fingers on Gemma's lips to silence her as she sings on. Even a full orchestra kicks in to heighten the moment.

It's a laugh-out-loud moment that writer-director Gerard Johnstone knew would work, going all the way back to when he put it in an early draft of the script.

"There were two things about the first movie that defined it, M3GAN's singing and her dancing," Johnstone told Business Insider. "I knew that as much as I wanted to change things up on this one, I had to figure out a way to do those two things. It was so delightful that we kind of pulled it off and got the moment that we were hoping for."

Like the first movie, M3GAN has her dance moment in the sequel, but this time, it's her singing that is the highlight — and Johnstone knew the Bush song would work.

"There were a few conversations with my producers about using that song," he said, "and I just felt there's something about it, the way Kate Bush writes music, no one else writes music that way, so I thought it's going to be odd, but people are going to love it."

The singing scene was done with a fully animatronic M3GAN

Robot Megan on set of movie
"M3GAN 2.0" director Gerard Johnstone on set with an animatronic M3GAN.

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The singing sequence also showcases the evolution of the robotics used for M3GAN compared to the first movie, as Williams acted across from an animatronic puppet.

"That is our animatronic M3GAN doing everything," Johnstone said. "We recorded those lines leading up to that moment. The song itself was sung by Jenna Davis, who voices M3GAN."

"Then there were three puppeteers behind M3GAN helping to position her body," Johnstone continued. "A puppeteer's arm is M3GAN's arm in that moment, to do some of the moves like putting her two fingers on Gemma's lips."

Johnstone said the animatronic lip sync was so spot on that Williams had to make sure her timing was right in the scene when she delivered her lines, even when the voice coming out of M3GAN would suddenly change from Davis to a high-pitched Johnstone.

"Every now and again, if there was a line change, suddenly someone else's voice, often mine, would pop up out of M3GAN's mouth," he said. "So Allison would have to try not to break character and stay in the moment when that happened."

The result is an outlandish scene of M3GAN serenading Gemma to a Kate Bush hit. And Johnstone says it comes at a perfect time in the movie.

"Normally, around that time in a movie is where things start to drag, when you're going into the last act," Johnstone said. "But it's kind of great having a scene like that that sort of carries us over into the finale."

The animatronics in "M3GAN 2.0 " are impressive, but Johnstone hopes to do even more if he is given a chance to make a third movie.

"M3GAN 2.0" is currently playing in theaters.

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Every Pixar movie, ranked from worst to best

20 June 2025 at 16:46
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"Elio."

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  • Pixar movies are those unique kinds of films that entertain both children and adults alike.
  • Here we highlight all of them and rank which one is the best of them all.
  • Find out where movies like "Toy Story," "The Incredibles," "Inside Out 2," and its latest release, "Elio," rank.

Pixar has released 29 feature films. Here they all are, ranked.

29. "Cars 2" (2011)
cars 2
"Cars 2."

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Taking Lightning McQueen (voiced by Owen Wilson) and Mater (Larry the Cable Guy) away from Radiator Springs and going international (plus making Mater a spy) didn't grab critics. This sequel became the first "rotten" Pixar movie on Rotten Tomatoes. Deservedly.

28. "A Bug's Life" (1998)
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"A Bug's Life."

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In the second movie ever released by Pixar, an ant named Flik (voiced by Dave Foley) sets out to find others to help save his colony against grasshoppers and ends up recruiting a unique group of allies.

Though the movie was successful at the box office, with the release of DreamWorks' "Antz" a month earlier, you're more likely to remember the Lasseter-Katzenberg feud than the films. 

 

27. "Cars 3" (2017)
Cars 3 Pixar final
"Cars 3."

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Though the "Cars" movies are the least acclaimed of anything Pixar makes, the company continues to churn them out. "Cars 3" touches on some interesting themes like mortality and self-confidence, but it feels like everyone involved in the making of it was on cruise control.

26. "The Good Dinosaur" (2015)
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"The Good Dinosaur."

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Perhaps one of the more serious stories in the Pixar inventory, this coming-of-age tale about an Apatosaurus and his human friend Spot trying to return home didn't catch on nearly as much as Pixar's other release in 2015, "Inside Out."

Burnout may have been at play here, but mostly Pixar challenged its core audience with a darker story than they were used to.

 

25. "Brave" (2012)
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"Brave."

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With perhaps a little too much old-school Disney gloss, the movie nevertheless featured a princess who's one of the most strong-willed we've seen in an animated feature. But it just didn't work as well as Pixar titles before or since.

24. "Onward" (2020)
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Dan Scanlon's "Onward."

Pixar

In this touching story that centers a family story in the fantasy world, we follow two elf brothers as they set out on a magical quest to bring their father back from the dead.

Like all Pixar movies, there's a lot of self discovery in this one that is hit or miss throughout.

23. "Lightyear" (2022)
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Buzz goes to infinity and beyond in "Lightyear."

Disney/Pixar

"Lightyear" is the movie that Andy from "Toy Story" is obsessed over and what leads to him getting the Buzz Lightyear toy.

Wish we could say we were as obsessed over the movie as he was.

It's fun, and Chris Evans is great voicing the "real" Buzz. But it just misses that quality that makes the great Pixar movies so special.

Still, the action sequences are exciting and the theme music from composer Michael Giacchino is a standout.

22. "Cars" (2006)
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Lightning McQueen in "Cars."

Disney / Pixar

The final Pixar movie that the company produced independently before being bought by Disney, "Cars" — a look at a hotshot racing car that finds humility and true friends in a dusty country town — was one of those for-the-whole-family, feel-good stories that was light on the clichés.

21. "Monsters University" (2013)
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The monsters head to college in this prequel sequel.

Disney / Pixar

In the prequel to the popular "Monsters, Inc.," Pixar does impressive work to make the backstory of how Mike (Billy Crystal) and Sully (John Goodman) met as fun and original as the classic first film.

Setting the story in the college life of monsters opens the door to easy traps, but the movie mostly steers clear and has a strong ending.

20. "Soul" (2020)
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Pete Docter's "Soul."

Pixar

In Pete Docter and Kemp Power's latest directing effort for Pixar, the two take us into the world of a struggling musician, who dies on the day of his big break.

On the verge of going to the great beyond, or an alternate universe for souls, he tries to get back into his own body.

Jamie Foxx is great voicing the main character, Joe. Tina Fey, as the difficult spirit 22, can get annoying at times, but that's likely the point of her bratty character who doesn't want to live on Earth.

The real hit of this movie, however, is the amazing digital animation that makes New York City pop.

19. "Elemental" (2023)
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"Elemental."

Pixar

Pixar has created its first ever rom-com with this touching story set around a girl made of fire and a boy made of water.

Directed by Peter Sohn ("The Good Dinosaur"), the movie has lots of layers like immigration, different cultures, tolerance, and family, as the movie sets around a family made of fire that has to try to live in a city that doesn't accommodate them. 

But at its core, the movie is a lighthearted look at young love. This is one that's going to make you feel good when you leave the theater.

18. "Elio" (2025)
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"Elio."

Pixar

This story of love and loss will pull at your heartstrings, as the titular young boy struggles with the loss of both his parents and must adapt to being under the care of his aunt, an Air Force major with ambitions of her own. Elio's wish to be understood is granted in the form of an extraterrestrial connection, though that, too, turns sideways when he must lead an intergalactic dispute.

Like every Pixar movie, "Elio" is fueled by a emotion. You'll want to hug your loved ones tightly after it's over.

17. "Turning Red" (2022)
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"Turning Red."

Pixar Animation

After gaining an Oscar for her beloved short film "Bao," director Domee Shi delivers a moving look at what it's like to be a teenage girl in her directorial debut.

Following 13-year-old Meilin as she navigates being a teen and her overbearing mother, she also comes to learn that thanks to a family curse whenever she gets excited she turns into a giant red panda.

This one is definitely a mother-daughter watch.

16. "Inside Out 2" (2024)
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"Inside Out 2."

Disney/Pixar

Nine years after the Oscar-winning original, we're back inside the mind of Riley. Now 13, she's got a lot more swirling in her head besides "Joy," "Anger," "Sadness," "Fear," and "Disgust."

With puberty hitting, there's now "Envy," "Boredom," "Embarrassment," and "Anxiety."

Like the first movie, the sequel cleverly examines how emotions fuel our everyday lives, especially in our youth. Here, the main focus is Riley trying to fit in at hockey skills camp, which leads to a lot of anxiety and repressing her key emotions.

Though the middle of the movie gets a bit stale as Joy tries to race back before Anxiety goes too far, it gets points for having one of the better endings in the Pixar filmography.

15. "Coco" (2017)
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In "Coco," Miguel enters the underworld to follow his passion for music.

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Marking the first time Pixar based a movie around a holiday, director Lee Unkirch ("Toy Story 3") gives us a powerful story about family and never forgetting your past all set around Dia de los Muertos. Make sure to bring the tissues for this one.

14. "Luca" (2021)
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You'll want to ride a Vespa after watching "Luca" too.

Pixar

Director Enrico Casarosa delivers a beautiful look at friendship and Italian culture with this movie that follows two boys who are sea creatures but long to explore above the surface. 

Looking like regular boys when they are out of the water, they embark on a journey through the small fishing town near where they live.

It results in an adventure that speaks to expanding your horizons and never being scared of change.

13. "Monsters, Inc." (2001)
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Randall is one of the villains in "Monsters Inc."

Disney / Pixar

The first directing effort by Pete Doctor ("Up," "Inside Out"), "Monsters, Inc.," the story of how monsters use the screams of children to power their world, was a genius idea that was elevated by the performances of Crystal and Goodman as the leads. With laughs and a heartwarming story, the movie showed that Pixar had more up its sleeve than the "Toy Story" movies.

12. "Incredibles 2" (2018)
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"Incredibles 2" starts moments after the last film.

Disney/Pixar

14 years after the hit original, director Brad Bird finally returns to continue the story of the superhero Parr family. Starting up right where we left off at the end of the first movie, the sequel has all the fun and thrills of the original while still cleverly keeping those family strife undertones that ground the story. (You have to have something for the parents to relate to.)

11. "Finding Dory" (2016)
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Dory gets lost in the sequel.

Pixar

The highest-grossing animated movie of 2016, the sequel to "Finding Nemo" did not disappoint with audiences as we follow Dory (Ellen DeGeneres) on her journey to find her parents. With many characters from the original returning and some great new ones, Pixar proved the 13-year gap from when the original opened didn't affect their storytelling or our love for this world.

10. "Inside Out" (2015)
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Joy and Sadness need each other more than they realize in "Inside Out."

Disney/Pixar

Pixar's Oscar-winner for best animated feature touches on all the things that have made its movies so beloved. The original story of a young girl growing up told through personified emotions, and the journey to finding one's true self, could've been corny. But Pixar's execution was flawless.

9. "Toy Story 2" (1999)
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The gang gets together to save Woody.

Disney / Pixar

The second "Toy Story" puts Woody (Tom Hanks) in the clutches of a toy seller who's ready to ship the antique cowboy off for some major coin. Buzz (Tim Allen) and the rest of the toys have to figure out how to save him. Like the first time, the movie has some great drama and thrills that proved a lot more could be told about these plastic toys.

8. "Up" (2009)
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Dug is a good dog.

Pixar

"Up" is a perfect example of the adult topics Pixar began to take on once it was on steady ground in Hollywood. Focusing on love and the inability to let go, the story of an elderly man's journey to a far-off land on his floating house after his wife dies is equally heartbreaking and life-affirming — a triumph that led to it getting a best-picture Oscar nomination.

7. 'Toy Story 4' (2019)
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"Toy Story 4" was directed by Josh Cooley.

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Though many thought the third "Toy Story" was a beautiful close to the franchise that launched Pixar into a giant in the animation world, "Toy Story 4" doesn't do a bad job in trying to match up to its predecessor. Though it doesn't pull the emotional strings as dramatically as "3," it is definitely a worthy addition thanks to new characters like Forky and Duke Caboom, as well as a strong storyline for Bo Peep. 

6. "Toy Story 3" (2010)
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Lotzo is a jaded bear who smells like strawberries.

Pixar

Hailed by critics when it came out, and nominated for a best picture Oscar, the third "Toy Story" is the franchise's most emotionally charged to date. Woody, Buzz, and the gang find themselves mistakenly delivered to a day-care center, where they encounter some interesting new toys. 

 

5. "The Incredibles" (2004)
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The family-centric movie is still a favorite of many.

Disney / Pixar

Playing on the big Hollywood secret agent/superhero movies, Pixar's curveball turned off some who didn't want it meddling in the genre. But the story of a superhero past his prime and realizing he's even more powerful when his family is by his side indicated the emotional depths Pixar wanted to explore.

4. "Ratatouille" (2007)
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Remy and Alfredo Linguini in "Ratatouille."

Disney/Pixar

This touching examination of the sanctity of art and how it can be commercialized into watered-down muck — cleverly using the setting of a restaurant kitchen — is one of the most emotionally fulfilling movies ever made, Pixar or otherwise.

3. "Finding Nemo" (2003)
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Nemo was a long way from home in the original.

Disney/Finding Nemo

From the sarcastic comedy of Albert Brooks opposite the sweetly naive tone of Ellen DeGeneres, to the attention to detail in the gorgeous CGI-rendered underwater world, "Finding Nemo" provided a lot for everyone to love. And the giant box-office numbers speak for themselves.

2. "Toy Story" (1995)
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"Reach for the sky."

Disney / Pixar

The movie that started it all. Lasseter directed it and pretty much put all the company's chips into one basket. "Toy Story" elevated what kinds of stories animated movies could tell. And its computer-generated animation was the nail in the coffin for Disney's traditional hand-drawn work.

1. "WALL-E" (2008)
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Wall-E leaves his mundane life on Earth to change the world for the better.

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Director Andrew Stanton ("Finding Nemo," "WALL-E") gives us a remarkable story that celebrates old cinema (the silent movie, the musical) while delivering a message about the need to protect the planet (and our health) as flashy technology takes over.

Pixar is known for making us care about fictional creatures and objects, but with "WALL-E," that connection to the characters — the sense that they're living beings — is so intertwined with our experience of watching that you have to remind yourself it's just a story.

And that's the best kind of storytelling.

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Danny Boyle made sure '28 Years Later' was worth the wait

13 June 2025 at 17:55
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Danny Boyle.

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For more than two decades, Danny Boyle has been plagued by one question: What would happen after a zombie apocalypse?

The famed director's 2002 movie "28 Days Later" broke conventions of the zombie genre and helped launch a digital video moviemaking revolution in the early 2000s. But as years and then decades passed — and Boyle went on to earn a best director Oscar for "Slumdog Millionaire," do a Steve Jobs movie, and make a "Trainspotting" sequel — he could never crack a continuation of his original "28 Days."

Boyle and screenwriter Alex Garland missed out on the sequel, 2007's "28 Weeks Later," because they had already committed to making the sci-fi thriller "Sunshine." And pitching their own continuation around Hollywood never got any traction. Maybe it would be one of those things that would never come to fruition.

It wasn't until the British Film Institute invited him to do a Q&A at a "28 Days Later" 20th anniversary screening in 2022 that Boyle realized just how much audiences appreciated the film.

"I showed up and it was a packed theater," Boyle told Business Insider during a recent trip to New York City. "I was shocked. You could feel the audience's energy watching it. I texted Alex after, and I told him there's still an appetite for this. So he then came up with an idea."

Garland's idea would become "28 Years Later," which opens in theaters June 20. The film focuses in on a small island community in England that's learned to survive in relative isolation 28 years after the country was ravaged by the Rage Virus. But when Jamie (Aaron Taylor-Johnson) and his 12-year-old son Spike (Alfie Williams) venture to the mainland, they discover new mutations of the virus and survivors with their own fearsome methods for staying alive.

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Aaron Taylor-Johnson in "28 Years Later."

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Though the "28 Years Later" cast is entirely new — and there are no glimpses of original "28 Days" star Cillian Murphy, despite the rumors — Boyle is just getting started. He's also a producer on a sequel set for release in January, "28 Years Later: The Bone Temple," which was shot by director Nia DaCosta ("Candyman") right after "28 Years" wrapped. And Boyle will return to direct a third movie, which will indeed star "28 Days Later" star Cillian Murphy. That is, if Sony will greenlight it.

So how did Boyle crack the code to continuing his zombie franchise? His trick is to think limited, not expansive. Though he has big aspirations for a trilogy, it all came about by keeping "28 Years Later" as grounded as possible.

"I love limitations, because I can bash against it and that gives energy and inventiveness," Boyle said with a wide smile. "So the third movie is in many ways an original film."

For the latest edition of Business Insider's Director's Chair series, Boyle discusses returning to the zombie genre, how he used Cillian Murphy as leverage to pursue his other creative ideas, and if he'd ever take on another James Bond movie.

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Cillian Murphy in "28 Days Later."

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Business Insider: Take me back to that "28 Days Later" 20th anniversary BFI screening. Where was your head at then about doing a third movie?

Danny Boyle: By that point, Alex had developed one script, which we decided not to do: weaponizing the virus, a traditional type of sequel. It was a good script, but we just didn't get any traction. After the BFI screening, he came up with the idea of confining the story to an island, and that was a really good decision.

How much of the COVID pandemic influenced how you wanted the characters to navigate the Rage Virus 28 years later?

It would be that people would become accustomed. You can take risks and know when the back off them. There's a kid in this movie who has no knowledge of the virus — it has been passed on to him; he's never seen any of it. This is his first trip to the mainland. He's heard stories.

You can see that the kids draw pictures of the stories they've been told. They have mythologized the virus. So we talked about all that. And then we delve into the culture before the apocalypse, and it's distorted. How reliable is it? We don't know. But that's an element that goes into the second film, "The Bone Temple."

The visuals have always been a hallmark of your filmography, but especially this franchise. "28 Days Later" ushered digital cameras into the mainstream. Now with this movie, you're shooting with iPhones. It's been done a lot on the indie side with filmmakers like Sean Baker and Steven Soderbergh, but I believe this is the first time camera phones have been used at the studio level. Why did you want to do that?

I felt an obligation to take the spirit of the first movie, but be aware that the technology has moved on so much. Phones now shoot at 4K, which is what a lot of cameras shoot at anyway. And the advantage of using the phones is we were able to be very lightweight.

Also, some of the locations we were shooting hadn't been disturbed for many years. It's an area of England called Northumberland, its sister county is Yorkshire, which is agriculture and manicured. In order to go there with a crew, you have to be light, so having iPhone cameras was good for that. We used a lot of drones, which had different camera lenses; we used a specific Panasonic camera for the night vision footage.

But the iPhone gave us a light touch and allowed us to use these rigs, which I'd been trying to use for a while. It's a poor man's bullet time. But you don't have to go to it, you can carry it. 

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The bullet time rig used on the set of "28 Years Later."

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So now, instead of laying down dolly track and having all this gear in these very preserved locations, all you need to retrace are footsteps. 

That's right. 

How did you sell Sony on all of this?

[Laughs.] Um. I can't remember. 

Come on.

I will do and say anything to get the film made. There is a terrible side to directors where you will promise [studios] stuff and you don't mean it. They are nervous. They're a corporation. And you have to massage the vision. 

So what was the promise you gave that you weren't going to fulfill?

Cillian Murphy. 

What better promise could you make? That's quite a deflection of any technical concerns; they soon forget. Yeah, we nakedly used that to get our own way. But Sony knew what they were inheriting.

Did Nia DaCosta shoot "The Bone Temple" right after you wrapped on "28 Years"?

Pretty much. She visited the "28 Years" set a couple of times, but yeah, she was prepping her own film, she had her own cinematographer, and though she inherited the sets and some of the characters, she also had her own cast for a substantial part of it.

And she gets a bit of Cillian at the end. All I can say is you have to wait for Cillian, but hopefully he will help us get the third film financed. 

So where are things with the third movie?

We still need the money. I mean, we'll see how we do with "28 Years Later." It's so close to release that nobody wants to say anything; they just don't know what it's going to do. And I respect that. It's a lot of money, so we'll see. 

If there is a third movie, would you want to direct it?

Oh, yes. That's the idea. 

You famously walked off the last James Bond movie. Would you ever give Bond another try now that the regime has changed and Amazon is fully controlling it?

That ship has sailed. The thing I regret about that is the script was really good. John Hodge is a wonderful writer, and I don't think they appreciated how good that script was, and because they didn't, we moved on, and that's the way it should be. Whatever happens with Bond going forward now is what it will be. 

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Himesh Patel in "Yesterday."

Universal

As someone who has done a Beatles movie with "Yesterday," what's your take on Sony's ambitious plan for four Beatles movies?

[Sony chairman] Tom Rothman — who I fight with a lot, and who I love very dearly — I do tip my hat to him, because that is backing a visionary filmmaker in Sam Mendes with a hard, big investment. That's a lot of vision to say, here ya go, there's four films. And they are all going to get released around the same time. 

All in one month! Just from the perspective of a director, would that scare you?

Sam clearly has an appetite to handle it all. I don't know what his vision is, but he's got terrific actors. I worked with Harris Dickinson, who is a wonderful actor, so he's got himself a very special cast. 90% of anything is casting; if you get it right, you're almost there. So I admire it. 

Now, one of the things we found, and they will have this issue, is that people don't know The Beatles' music. We just did a workshop on "Yesterday" and its long-term plans — like, should there be a stage production one day? We did a workshop with a bunch of actors, and lots of them just didn't know the songs. They are in their 20s or 30s, so why would they? They all can recite from memory something from Taylor Swift or Harry Styles, but The Beatles? So, we'll see.

This interview has been condensed and edited for length and clarity.

"28 Years Later" opens in theaters June 20.

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'Poker Face' creator Rian Johnson on perfecting the murder mystery and why his next movie after 'Knives Out' isn't 'Star Wars'

8 May 2025 at 20:03
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Natasha Lyonne in "Poker Face."

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  • Rian Johnson's "Poker Face" returns for season 2 on Peacock with Natasha Lyonne solving mysteries.
  • Johnson explained to Business Insider how he recruits a star-studded guest cast each season.
  • Johnson plans to take on an original movie after the release of Netflix's "Wake Up Dead Man."

When it comes to murder, Rian Johnson knows what elements make up the perfect crime.

The writer-director has spent the last six years immersed in the whodunit genre, surrounding Daniel Craig's Southern dandy detective Benoit Blanc with a cast of quirky suspects in two "Knives Out" movies (a third is out this fall), and refining the procedural format for streaming with Peacock's "Poker Face" starring Natasha Lyonne.

"The murder mystery genre has served me well," Johnson told Business Insider with a giggle in the days leading up to the season two premiere of "Poker Face" on Thursday.

The series, which stars Lyonne as Charlie Cale, a mystery-solving former casino worker on the run from the mob, uses the case-of-the-week format to feature all manner of zany scenarios acted out by a star-studded cast of guest stars. This season, Charlie must do everything from work as an extra on a B-movie set at a mortuary run by Giancarlo Esposito to find the killer among quadruplets all played by Cynthia Erivo.

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Nathasha Lyonne and Rian Johnson at the season 2 premiere of "Poker Face."

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The series' familiar procedural format helps keep the show grounded, so Johnson can encourage the "Poker Face" writers to come up with outlandish scenarios for each episode.

"To me, having a show like this, it would be sad if you just cranked out a version of the same thing every time," Johnson said. "It's an engine to drive batshit crazy ideas that you might not get made otherwise. That, to me, is the fun part."

Johnson knows the value in keeping things creatively interesting. That's why he plans to take a break from the whodunit genre and start a new project after his latest "Knives Out " installment "Wake Up Dead Man" hits Netflix this fall.

"It's a completely different thing," Johnson told BI of his next idea. (And no, it's not a return to "Star Wars.") "It's a little scary, but in a fun way."

Below, Business Insider spoke with Johnson about turning crazy ideas into "Poker Face" episodes, casting actors via a group chat, and why he hopes "Wake Up Dead Man" gets played in as many movie theaters as possible — despite Netflix CEO Ted Sarandos' calling movie theaters "outdated."

Business Insider: Each "Poker Face" episode this season feels like a mini movie. While watching, I wondered if there's an archivist on the show who has encyclopedic knowledge of everything that's happened, simply just to make sure not to repeat a bit or the way someone was murdered.

Rian Johnson: Yeah, it's me [laughs]. In terms of what we've done in the previous season, I mean, if you talk to someone who has done "Law and Order" where they are on their 89th season and 300 episodes, they would laugh at us. But we have some of the writers' room assistants do research. So that is one element of it.

What does a proposed "Poker Face" story need for you to consider it for an episode?

We definitely have a blue sky day where people just pitch, "What about a baseball episode?" and others, and that's really fun because you also get to know the writers in the room, because everyone is pitching their own pet ideas. And then the reality is you pick a horse at some point and say, "Okay, let's develop this thing," and then the real work happens, which is hashing out the show and the structure.

Charlie is not a cop; it's not her job to do these things. By necessity, you have to find a way in for her with every episode. And that means you have to develop a relationship, you have to have an emotional investment. With "Poker Face," it's something that you actually really need to make the episode tick. So finding ways to do that every week without it feeling like it's repeating itself, finding different relationship dynamics, finding different ways in — the connection Charlie has with the killer or the person killed — that ends up being one of the biggest challenges of the writing. 

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Natasha Lyonne and several Cynthia Erivos in the first episode of "Poker Face" season 2.

Peacock

A perfect example is the first episode of season two, which you directed. In it, Charlie meets Cynthia Erivo's character while working at an apple orchard. Was that something not used in the last season?

No, the orchard setting was fresh. I think part of it came from we were shooting in New York, and we were like, "What's around there? Oh, an apple orchard. That will be ideal!" But that's also a fun element of it. It harkens back to the "Columbo" thing or more "Quantum Leap," every episode zooming into a microcosm fishbowl of a world. Episode 1 came from the notion of all these false starts. We could have had a "Poker Face" episode set in a haunted house hayride or a parking garage, but those pesky gunmen keep chasing Charlie.

Are you personally involved in selecting the guest stars?

Yeah. The casting process for the main guest stars is a text thread with me, Natasha, Tony Tost, the showrunner, and our casting directors. Sometimes it's just me and Natasha bouncing back and forth ideas of friends that we want to text. So it's a very fun, personal, and chaotic process because we're casting the show week to week. 

So it's a lot of figuring out if schedules are going to fit.

But there's also an element that's also, "I was out the other night at dinner and I ran into so and so. Do you think they'd want to be in this episode that starts shooting on Monday?" There's a bit of a fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants element to it, which is fun and terrifying. It's amazing to get to the end of the season after that process and look back and see the roster that we've gotten. 

Has an actor you've gone out to for the show ever declined because they're holding out for a role in a "Knives Out" movie?

[Laughs] Not to my knowledge. If that has happened, they have not given that reason to me. But also being in one doesn't preclude you from being in the other. And these are very different processes casting both. We cast as we're shooting with "Poker Face." And we started shooting that halfway into the "Wake Up Dead Man" shoot. 

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Josh O'Connor will star alongside "Knives Out" lead actor Daniel Craig in "Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery.

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So someone you cast in a "Knives Out" movie could show up in a "Poker Face" episode, and vice versa?

Absolutely. Most of the people in this season I would cast in a heartbeat in a "Knives Out" movie. 

After "Wake Up Dead Man," have you thought about what you'll do next?

Actually, I have a whole movie in my head that I just have to write, which makes it sound easy, but it won't be. I'm hoping to take the summer and dig into that. It is not a Benoit Blanc movie, it's not a murder mystery, it's a very different genre. It's an original. So, I'm hoping to dive into that.

So, not taking a trip back to a galaxy far, far away?

Not for this next one. 

Recently, Netflix co-CEO Ted Sarandos spoke at the Time100 Summit and said this of the state of theatrical releases: "Folks grew up thinking, 'I want to make movies on a gigantic screen, and have strangers watch them, and play in the theater for two months, and people cry, and sold-out shows.' It just doesn't happen anymore. It's an outdated concept." Do you agree with him?

Obviously I don't, because I love movies. I love going to see movies. But, also, I have a feeling talking to Ted, it would be a different thing than one quote taken and kind of tossed at me in this context. So I don't want to phrase this as I'm having a proxy discussion with Ted right here.

But, I will say, disconnected from that, I think theatrical is not going anywhere. With the success of Ryan [Coogler]'s movie, "Sinners," and the "Minecraft" movie, I think we've seen if you put a movie people want to see in the theaters, they are going to show up for it. That experience of being in a full house and having that experience is so important. It's something that I love and I want more of in the world. 

I'm sure you've had discussions with Ted yourself about theatrical within the Netflix bubble. Daniel Craig has gone on record saying it saddened him how "Glass Onion" was released in so few theaters. Do you hope "Wake Up Dead Man" will be shown on more screens?

We'll see. We're going to push for all we can get. I want this in as many theaters for as long as possible. I love Ted, I love working with Netflix. They have been absolutely wonderful partners. We're going to push for everything we can get in terms of theatrical with it because I want as many people as possible to see it in that form. 

This interview has been condensed and edited for clarity.

The first three episodes of "Poker Face" are now streaming on Peacock, with new episodes dropping weekly on Thursdays.

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Steven Soderbergh refuses to make Hollywood epics if they feel like 'Oscar bait.' If he makes one again, he'll cast Timothée Chalamet.

25 April 2025 at 18:13
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Michael Fassbender and Steven Soderbergh shooting "Black Bag."

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  • Steven Soderbergh's movie "Black Bag" underperformed, earning $37 million on a $44 million budget.
  • Soderbergh, who's known for mid-budget dramas, is frustrated by the film's lackluster reception.
  • He is hesitant to make epic films again, citing the need for genuine inspiration.

Following the lackluster box office performance of his latest mid-budget spy thriller, "Black Bag," Oscar-winning director Steven Soderbergh is contemplating his next move.

The director behind acclaimed films like "Traffic," "Erin Brockovich," "Out of Sight," and the "Ocean's Eleven" franchise has made nearly every type of movie imaginable, but he's always felt most comfortable doing a modestly budgeted drama. But the performance of "Black Bag," which brought in $37 million on a $44 million budget, has the filmmaker reconsidering how he fits into today's moviemaking landscape.

"The people we needed to come out didn't come out," Soderbergh told Business Insider of the "Black Bag" box office numbers. "And unfortunately, it's impossible to really know why."

Michael Fassbender holding a book wearing sunglasses
Michael Fassbender in "Black Bag."

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"My concern is that the rest of the industry looks at that result and just goes, 'This is why we don't make movies in that budget range for that audience, because they don't show up,'" he continued. "And that's unfortunate, because that's the kind of movie I've made my whole career. That middle ground, which we all don't want to admit is disappearing, seems to be really disappearing."

The fact that a sexy spy thriller starring Cate Blanchett, Michael Fassbender, and Pierce Brosnan that's Certified Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes couldn't pull in an audience is particularly confounding to Soderbergh.

"I mean, it's the best-reviewed movie I've ever made in my career, and we've got six beautiful people in it, and they all did every piece of publicity that we asked them to do, and this is the result," he said. "So it's frustrating."

Asked if he would ever return to making epic movies like 2008's "Che," his two-film biopic starring Benicio del Toro as the revolutionary Che Guevara, Soderbergh wasn't against it, but he had one caveat.

Benicio del Toro holding a rifle
Benicio del Toro in "Che."

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"It's really got to be something that deserves that kind of treatment and doesn't feel like Oscar bait," he said.

Soderbergh said he currently has nothing in the works that he would characterize as an epic and explained why.

"It does require an aspect of the grandiosity gene; you've got to think about yourself a certain way to want to go out and do those things. That is not my default mode," he said. "I have to work myself up to that because I don't have that kind of sense of my place."

Still, he enjoys making epic films when it's the right move. It even led to the creation of one of his most beloved television series.

"If I hadn't made 'Che,' I don't think I would have made 'The Knick,'" which I think is the last epic thing that I've done," Soderbergh said of his acclaimed 2014 Cinemax series starring Clive Owen as a surgeon pushing the boundaries of medicine in 1900s New York.

"'Che' was good for me in that sense. But knowing what goes into that, it has got to be something that I feel really electrified by, and those are just hard to come by," he continued. "Then you've got to cast Timothée Chalamet."

"Black Bag" will be available to stream on Peacock starting May 2.

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